Beef: MF Grimm Vs MF Doom

Written by Rizoh. Posted in Mixtapes

Published on January 31, 2006 with 62 Comments">62 Comments

MF Grimm – Book of Daniel

All rappers need to fire their publicists RIGHT NOW! What’s the use for a PR when these studio thugs have already figured out the key to publicity in today’s rap game?

In the latest episode of Star Wars, (yeah right, neither of the two MF’s can boast of a significant spot in today’s hip hop galaxy), MF Grimm has taken a cue from Cam’ron on how to hype up an album (which I won’t even dignify with a link) by taking shots at his former friend, MF Doom.

Looks like someone’s mad that he’s confined to a wheelchair for life while Daniel Dumile’s doing records with Ghostface and getting all that Adult Swim cake:

Put yourself in danger runnin with a mouse
Metal turned to braces, punch you in your mouth
Zev Love X used to be merry
The mask took control of you like Jim Carrey

More hater-rade:

Mos Def, De La Soul, Roots cant revive you
When the bullets start flying whos gonna hide you
Rhymesayers, Stones Throw, Nature Sounds signed you
Make peace with you-Zev I tried too

you can hide behind the mask but see through like glass
thought you was the truth but your styles like ass

What a way to keep heads from nodding off to his sleepy tunes. With weak joints like these, however, the effect is counteractive.

Rizoh

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  • Reggie

    there’s nothing wrong with battling
    why sit gotta be called beef

  • Reggie

    there’s nothing wrong with battling
    why sit gotta be called beef

  • http://therapup.blogspot.com Rizoh

    It’s only a battle if it’s legitimate. I’m not a fan of gimmick

  • http://therapup.blogspot.com Rizoh

    It’s only a battle if it’s legitimate. I’m not a fan of gimmick

  • http://jonaswho.blogspot.com Jonas Åradsson

    Some people are inspired by their hate to whatever when they write… others simply have stuff to write about.
    Beefs are often fun, but please give me the name of a beef thats a cool hiphop track as well!!

  • http://jonaswho.blogspot.com Jonas Åradsson

    Some people are inspired by their hate to whatever when they write… others simply have stuff to write about.
    Beefs are often fun, but please give me the name of a beef thats a cool hiphop track as well!!

  • DarkPoet

    Battling is rap related, and involves puns towards your opposer. This, weak, track is a personal shot at MF Doom. Which I cant qaulifier as a battle, but beef/hate on a different level then it should be.

  • DarkPoet

    Battling is rap related, and involves puns towards your opposer. This, weak, track is a personal shot at MF Doom. Which I cant qaulifier as a battle, but beef/hate on a different level then it should be.

  • http://therapup.blogspot.com Rizoh

    ^My point exactly

  • http://therapup.blogspot.com Rizoh

    ^My point exactly

  • http://obifromsouthlondon.blogspot.com obifromsouthlondon

    whaddup man like Riz? long time brethren.

    yup! beef! like the first set of hater-ade.

    hope you and famz are keeping good.

  • http://obifromsouthlondon.blogspot.com obifromsouthlondon

    whaddup man like Riz? long time brethren.

    yup! beef! like the first set of hater-ade.

    hope you and famz are keeping good.

  • Paul

    you should remeber doom started takin shots at grimm on M.I.C.

  • Paul

    you should remeber doom started takin shots at grimm on M.I.C.

  • SirFunkalot

    what is everyone talkin about battle?? Doom and grimm are the fronteers of underground hiphop. When u diss ‘em.. you basicly just diss yoself. It ain’t a weak track, but it’s grimms message to doom. He expresses himself best when spittin’ on a track.. that’s the reason why he won’t tell shit to the media, let the track speak for itself.

    “What’s the use for a PR when these studio thugs have already figured out the key to publicity in today’s rap game?

    “INthe latest episode of Star Wars, (yeah right, neither of the two MF’s can boast of a significant spot in the Hip Hop galaxy), MF Grimm has taken a cue from Cam’ron on how to hype up an album (which I won’t even dignify with a link) by taking shots at his former friend, MF Doom.”

    The guy who wrote this shit should eat a dick.. that’s all I can say.

    Show some #$#%@# respect. I just hope grimm and doom settle their beef and dive into the studio again.

  • SirFunkalot

    what is everyone talkin about battle?? Doom and grimm are the fronteers of underground hiphop. When u diss ‘em.. you basicly just diss yoself. It ain’t a weak track, but it’s grimms message to doom. He expresses himself best when spittin’ on a track.. that’s the reason why he won’t tell shit to the media, let the track speak for itself.

    “What’s the use for a PR when these studio thugs have already figured out the key to publicity in today’s rap game?

    “INthe latest episode of Star Wars, (yeah right, neither of the two MF’s can boast of a significant spot in the Hip Hop galaxy), MF Grimm has taken a cue from Cam’ron on how to hype up an album (which I won’t even dignify with a link) by taking shots at his former friend, MF Doom.”

    The guy who wrote this shit should eat a dick.. that’s all I can say.

    Show some #$#%@# respect. I just hope grimm and doom settle their beef and dive into the studio again.

  • Somebody who knows something.

    “yeah right, neither of the two MF’s can boast of a significant spot in the Hip Hop galaxy”

    Yes they fucking can. The only way they can’t is if Eminem, 2Pac and Notorious BIG are the only ‘hiphop legends’.

    “What’s the use for a PR when these studio thugs have already figured out the key to publicity in today’s rap game?”

    MF DOOM and MF Grimm are not studio thugs. And neither are you. SHUTUP.

  • Somebody who knows something.

    “yeah right, neither of the two MF’s can boast of a significant spot in the Hip Hop galaxy”

    Yes they fucking can. The only way they can’t is if Eminem, 2Pac and Notorious BIG are the only ‘hiphop legends’.

    “What’s the use for a PR when these studio thugs have already figured out the key to publicity in today’s rap game?”

    MF DOOM and MF Grimm are not studio thugs. And neither are you. SHUTUP.

  • heff

    MF Grimm’s new joint is dope. 3 Disc, 3+ hours. its all over the place. You should pick it up for sure. I think both Grimm and Doom are ill and am interested to hear how this beef plays out.

  • heff

    MF Grimm’s new joint is dope. 3 Disc, 3+ hours. its all over the place. You should pick it up for sure. I think both Grimm and Doom are ill and am interested to hear how this beef plays out.

  • some jerkoff

    doom cant boast of a significant spot in the hip hop galaxy? are you fuckin serious? have you heard of madvillainy if nothing else?

  • some jerkoff

    doom cant boast of a significant spot in the hip hop galaxy? are you fuckin serious? have you heard of madvillainy if nothing else?

  • chris

    the author’s so pussy… get the fuck out from Grimm

  • chris

    the author’s so pussy… get the fuck out from Grimm

  • tyler

    the author of this is a bitch. doom is one of the sickest names in hiphop right now. grimm is dope too. this beef comes equipped with a storyline and should play out nicely.

  • tyler

    the author of this is a bitch. doom is one of the sickest names in hiphop right now. grimm is dope too. this beef comes equipped with a storyline and should play out nicely.

  • Don D

    Keeping it real. MF DOOM is the sickest/best hands down in the game currently. MF Grimm ain’t sh#t, which is why he talks it. They were formerly emerging all together (Monster Island Czars) but Doom is truly the only ill ass mc of the bunch. I have seen him live and even had the honor of video-taipng him onstage for a set here in Atlanta. Wow, and now I know. He is truly the one. Of course his weak-%ss crew that didn’tsucceed in the game as well are going to hate…

  • Don D

    Keeping it real. MF DOOM is the sickest/best hands down in the game currently. MF Grimm ain’t sh#t, which is why he talks it. They were formerly emerging all together (Monster Island Czars) but Doom is truly the only ill ass mc of the bunch. I have seen him live and even had the honor of video-taipng him onstage for a set here in Atlanta. Wow, and now I know. He is truly the one. Of course his weak-%ss crew that didn’tsucceed in the game as well are going to hate…

  • Don D

    Plus… All of the sick ass beats on any of his former crew’s albums, MF DOOM produced .. It stands for metal fingers as well as metal face. And still can’t nobody touch that mother-fucker.

    LYrically there are perhaps 3 or 4 most that are even near DOOM in the game still period.

  • Don D

    Plus… All of the sick ass beats on any of his former crew’s albums, MF DOOM produced .. It stands for metal fingers as well as metal face. And still can’t nobody touch that mother-fucker.

    LYrically there are perhaps 3 or 4 most that are even near DOOM in the game still period.

  • Smitty

    Arguably MF Doom is fairly signifigant in Hip Hop. I mean how many cats have such a huge following. Just cause he aint of MTV doesnt me he aint the shit.

  • Smitty

    Arguably MF Doom is fairly signifigant in Hip Hop. I mean how many cats have such a huge following. Just cause he aint of MTV doesnt me he aint the shit.

  • Numb Nuts

    Who ever wrote this blog knows nothing about hip hop Both these cats are ill and the “beef” is legitimate. Its not like Grimm was taking shots at doom for no reason.

  • Numb Nuts

    Who ever wrote this blog knows nothing about hip hop Both these cats are ill and the “beef” is legitimate. Its not like Grimm was taking shots at doom for no reason.

  • xxxdogbonexxx

    Wow, the author as well as Grimm’s Haterz are totally “bitch!” Daniel Dumile’s image was created by Lord Smog (Monsta Island Czars) and its true Doom’s beats are sick and his lyrics are clever, but his image is one he didn’t create… Therefore he is a biter using the ideas others gave him to become well known in rap, which allows him to make tons of money which he doesn’t pay back to Grimm. The truth is Grimm financed Operation Doomsday!! Doom would not even be in the game without the Percy Carey aka Gingerbread Man for all u dumbasses who might not know the facts!!! Doom abandoned his roots his friends and his honor in my opinion and all i’m saying is Doom could have done what he did in a more respectful way to MIC and to Grimm. Its disgraceful the whole thing, because now the fans can’t hear both on the same tracks anymore spitting the sick shit… Now its all about bagging on each other and thats bullshit!!!

  • xxxdogbonexxx

    Wow, the author as well as Grimm’s Haterz are totally “bitch!” Daniel Dumile’s image was created by Lord Smog (Monsta Island Czars) and its true Doom’s beats are sick and his lyrics are clever, but his image is one he didn’t create… Therefore he is a biter using the ideas others gave him to become well known in rap, which allows him to make tons of money which he doesn’t pay back to Grimm. The truth is Grimm financed Operation Doomsday!! Doom would not even be in the game without the Percy Carey aka Gingerbread Man for all u dumbasses who might not know the facts!!! Doom abandoned his roots his friends and his honor in my opinion and all i’m saying is Doom could have done what he did in a more respectful way to MIC and to Grimm. Its disgraceful the whole thing, because now the fans can’t hear both on the same tracks anymore spitting the sick shit… Now its all about bagging on each other and thats bullshit!!!

  • pee

    yeah whoever wrote this blog knows nothing about underground at all.. daniel dumile, in my opinion, hasnt made shit in a long ass time.. at best all he really does is collaborations.. that fool hasnt had a single solo project in years.. he used to be way better but his skills have diminished in the past couple of years.. obviously most of you cats dont know shit about mr percy carey (mf grimm).. before you get on your soapbox read up on that fool… like dogbone says, he pretty much put doom in the spotlight and what doom did is pretty retarded and disrespectful.. honestly at least grimm still puts out good records, and i think if a battle was to happen grimm would kill it.. after all he is an experienced battle rapper

  • pee

    yeah whoever wrote this blog knows nothing about underground at all.. daniel dumile, in my opinion, hasnt made shit in a long ass time.. at best all he really does is collaborations.. that fool hasnt had a single solo project in years.. he used to be way better but his skills have diminished in the past couple of years.. obviously most of you cats dont know shit about mr percy carey (mf grimm).. before you get on your soapbox read up on that fool… like dogbone says, he pretty much put doom in the spotlight and what doom did is pretty retarded and disrespectful.. honestly at least grimm still puts out good records, and i think if a battle was to happen grimm would kill it.. after all he is an experienced battle rapper

  • Dasbklyn

    Man Grimm lost his brother of course he bitter and upset don’t take a snippet and try to flip because you a die hard DOOM fan..Really listen to the song.. He just wants his nigga back nahmean?

  • Dasbklyn

    Man Grimm lost his brother of course he bitter and upset don’t take a snippet and try to flip because you a die hard DOOM fan..Really listen to the song.. He just wants his nigga back nahmean?

  • jo

    how can u call this hatin, Grimms in a wheelchair an doom jus ditched him for money. they used to be tight and when grimm went to jail doom jus left him an stopped talkin to him.

  • jo

    how can u call this hatin, Grimms in a wheelchair an doom jus ditched him for money. they used to be tight and when grimm went to jail doom jus left him an stopped talkin to him.

  • fuck the author

    fuck whoever wrote this shit
    doesn’t know shit about hip hop or lyricism

    grimm is so fuckin unbelievably talented, if you list to what he’s saying and how he rhymes you’d know
    peep 1000 degrees by grimm
    its produced by doom too

    peacee

  • fuck the author

    fuck whoever wrote this shit
    doesn’t know shit about hip hop or lyricism

    grimm is so fuckin unbelievably talented, if you list to what he’s saying and how he rhymes you’d know
    peep 1000 degrees by grimm
    its produced by doom too

    peacee

  • Kesta

    Talk rubbish as if neither of the MF’s have right to claim their own position in the world of hip hop.

    The two are appropriately acknowledged as contemporary hip hop icons with reason.

  • Kesta

    Talk rubbish as if neither of the MF’s have right to claim their own position in the world of hip hop.

    The two are appropriately acknowledged as contemporary hip hop icons with reason.

  • Tangent

    I know I’m late on this, but I had to step in on the foolishness. This article is pure poppycock. It is obvious that the author knows nothing about real hip hop. Stay talking about that commercial shit, or better just keep your uneducated opinions to yourself.

  • Tangent

    I know I’m late on this, but I had to step in on the foolishness. This article is pure poppycock. It is obvious that the author knows nothing about real hip hop. Stay talking about that commercial shit, or better just keep your uneducated opinions to yourself.

  • Con

    seriously who the fuck are you to criticise! talkin bout two of the illest underground rappers like that

    i mean this fagget said
    “Looks like someone’s mad that he’s confined to a wheelchair for life while Daniel Dumile’s doing records with Ghostface and getting all that”

    hating ass bitch!, why would you make a thread and start hating?!
    and keep your comments for yourself next time cos’ damn sure you aint know what you be talkg about

  • Con

    seriously who the fuck are you to criticise! talkin bout two of the illest underground rappers like that

    i mean this fagget said
    “Looks like someone’s mad that he’s confined to a wheelchair for life while Daniel Dumile’s doing records with Ghostface and getting all that”

    hating ass bitch!, why would you make a thread and start hating?!
    and keep your comments for yourself next time cos’ damn sure you aint know what you be talkg about