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7 Reasons Why the Wale Experiment Failed

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For a while, it seemed as if Wale was destined to soar for an eternity. With all the planetary bodies aligned in his favor, his buzz would surely catapult him to unfathomable heights. His mixtape was the talk of the town. MTV tapped him to provide the musical backdrop for the 2009 VMAs. Jay-Z signed him to a Roc Nation management deal and made him an opening act on his Blueprint 3 Tour. The most popular pop artist in America graced his first single. He amassed 125,000 followers on Twitter (as of this writing). Simply put, Wale was coasting with no sign of slowing down. Until now. Despite the heavy promotion and media blitz, Wale’s eagerly awaited debut, Attention Deficit (Allido/Interscope), only managed a measly 28,000 units sold in its first week. What went wrong?

Here are 7 reasons why the Wale experiment failed.

Buzz overkill – Buzz is a gift and a curse. On one hand it boasts the benefit of industry exposure; on the other, it tends to exert a certain pressure to please the most powerful interests. Wale’s buzz in the last couple years was so loud that no one bothered to check for the equally talented J Cole until later this year. Like Drake, our friend Wale is caught in the middle of expectations that he’s incapable of matching.

Label politics – Like I said in my Attention Deficit review, Interscope pitched Wale to a fickle crowd. What they forgot is that Wale enthusiasts leaned on him as an alternative to that other stuff. By diluting his sound with radio-ready hooks and new wave robo-pipes the label only succeeded in alienating his core fan base. That’s like offering a coconut to a monkey while holding up a banana in the other hand. Chances are he’ll crack your skull with that coconut and proceed to snatch the banana. If reports that Interscope undershipped the album are valid, then it further underscores the disconnect between the label and the marketplace.

New Media – Word of mouth is still the No.1 killer of wack music and the No.1 promoter of quality music. The difference is that new media has enabled music connoisseurs to spread reports of an album’s quality more effectively. This hurts newcomers like Wale who are still in the process of building a fan base. With most rap albums leaking two weeks in advance, it only takes a few days for people to spread the word these days. Shortly after Attention Deficit made the inevitable premature debut online, message boards, blogs, and Twitter pages were inundated with knee-jerk assessments of the album.

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Twitter – If anyone plans on getting Wale a Christmas gift, I recommend a shirt with the following inscription: “I sent 9,000 tweets in 10 months and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.” Twitter has its merits, but it can be misleading. For starters, it gives artists a false sense of security and self-worth. Take it from an award-winning social media user, astronomical follows don’t mean much on Twitter. A wide swath of those followers are bots and bots don’t buy CDs. Then there’s the other chunk that, despite gushing about having ecstatic orgasms of delight as they listen to Attention Deficit, made no effort to buy the album. I posed this question on Twitter earlier.

Pride goes before fall – This point would be moot if Wale wasn’t a newcomer. Being a rookie in hip-hop is just like being a rookie in sports. You play it cool, feign humility, dish fake spiels about how you’re just like the fans and can totally relate to them. Rookie season is never the time to gripe publicly about your disdain for interviews. Suppress those eccentricities until you’ve actually earned the right to be cocky. I’m sorry, were you saying something about Kanye? Well, he’s an exception because he had already made an impact via his role on The Blueprint and The Fix — two of the best albums of the 2000s. And that was years before he dropped his own masterpiece.

wale at the vmas

Missed opportunities – Wale has been pointing fingers at others for all that went wrong on his debut, but he needs to save some criticism for the man in the mirror. He had numerous opportunities to showcase his talent and woo new fans, but he failed to close the deal. Remember his VMA performance? Yeah, me neither. That was a golden opportunity to make his case to millions of MTV viewers, many of whom hadn’t heard of him. Same goes for his appearance on the esteemed BET cypher which will be remembered for Eminem’s lyrical onslaught than for Wale’s forgettable freestyle. Here’s the funny part. A friend who basically heard of Wale through me called me after seeing these performances to inform me that “dude is trash” and that his album would go wood. First impressions, people. Look into it.

Witchcraft – This is the only logical explanation for Wale’s flop. Some unknown foe from a previous life must have cast a voodoo hex on his career.

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  • khal

    oh, i thought it was b/c it was wack. silly me.

  • khal

    oh, i thought it was b/c it was wack. silly me.

  • brandon

    i actually went to the store to get the album… nowhere to be found. only a couple best buys in michigan had the album so said the man working the computer.

  • brandon

    i actually went to the store to get the album… nowhere to be found. only a couple best buys in michigan had the album so said the man working the computer.

  • J to the AAP

    ^You’re wrong, it’s not. Mixtape About Nothing is miles above his album though. Good article Riz.

  • J to the AAP

    ^You’re wrong, it’s not. Mixtape About Nothing is miles above his album though. Good article Riz.

  • tree

    if there were no j cole or drake… he would’ve sold a shitload more. o and i went to the bp3 tour and i thought wale’s set was the worst. too much rock infused with his shit steered him away from a hiphop sound

  • tree

    if there were no j cole or drake… he would’ve sold a shitload more. o and i went to the bp3 tour and i thought wale’s set was the worst. too much rock infused with his shit steered him away from a hiphop sound

  • happyflip@ymail.com

    Too much hype + a medicore album = 28,000 units

    Wale’s not really lyrically talented either what he spits is just different I guess

  • happyflip@ymail.com

    Too much hype + a medicore album = 28,000 units

    Wale’s not really lyrically talented either what he spits is just different I guess

  • brooklyn

    his album was way under shipped. i couldn’t find it anywhere i had to download off the internet roc nation fucked up on this one

  • brooklyn

    his album was way under shipped. i couldn’t find it anywhere i had to download off the internet roc nation fucked up on this one

  • a

    label shipped 30K albums, he sold 28K. y’all do the math… thats a pretty good success if u ask me, without any radio play? and when his album got leaked, it actually helped his buzz cuz nuff ppl were sayin they felt it, thats why it wus TT. the label admitted they underestimated his buzz. its all good tho, he’ll catch it on the next one, talent over bullshit

  • a

    label shipped 30K albums, he sold 28K. y’all do the math… thats a pretty good success if u ask me, without any radio play? and when his album got leaked, it actually helped his buzz cuz nuff ppl were sayin they felt it, thats why it wus TT. the label admitted they underestimated his buzz. its all good tho, he’ll catch it on the next one, talent over bullshit

  • Dom Corleone

    Wale sold 10x the amount that MOP did.. Was MOP’s album 10x wacker than Wale’s?

    I’m jus sayin’.

  • Dom Corleone

    Wale sold 10x the amount that MOP did.. Was MOP’s album 10x wacker than Wale’s?

    I’m jus sayin’.

  • happyflip@ymail.com

    why would Wale only ship 30k? thats kinda retarded….-.- I mean like he made 80% on what he sent but he didnt send alot..

  • happyflip@ymail.com

    why would Wale only ship 30k? thats kinda retarded….-.- I mean like he made 80% on what he sent but he didnt send alot..

  • J to the AAP

    @happyflip: That’s why people are blaming Roc Nation in this, I don’t think undershipping the album was Wale’s personal choice.
    My earlier comment was directed at khal by the way, not brandon.

    the album is not wack imo, definitely some dope tracks on there. It doesn’t quite level up to his full potential though.

  • J to the AAP

    @happyflip: That’s why people are blaming Roc Nation in this, I don’t think undershipping the album was Wale’s personal choice.
    My earlier comment was directed at khal by the way, not brandon.

    the album is not wack imo, definitely some dope tracks on there. It doesn’t quite level up to his full potential though.

  • fiasco

    Wow someone was waiting for someone to fail.

    Terrible analysis. Half of it doesn’t even make sense. The label dropped the ball but not for the reason you quoted.

  • fiasco

    Wow someone was waiting for someone to fail.

    Terrible analysis. Half of it doesn’t even make sense. The label dropped the ball but not for the reason you quoted.

  • Corey

    Wale needs to figure out which excuse he is going to go with on this one.

    At first he said he sold 28K with 64% of that being digital sales according to his manager. Then he came out and said he sold 28K but only shipped 30K. That simply can’t be the case if you have 28K total sales (both digital & physical copies). If he sold 28K physical copies then his sales wouldve been well over 50K including his 64% digital sales. Conversely, if he sold 28K total copies and 64% were digital, then he would’ve had over 15K physical albums still on the shelves. As you see he has contradicted himself looking for excuses on this one.

    Personally, I think he should’ve stuck with the dope tracks displaying his artistry like “Wordplay” that helped get him here instead of instantly going for a radio grab with artists like Lady GaGa and the Gucci Mane (seriously? Gucci Mane?). These two are on different sides of the hip-hop spectrum and having him and GaGa on the singles looks like a sell out to his real fans.

  • Corey

    Wale needs to figure out which excuse he is going to go with on this one.

    At first he said he sold 28K with 64% of that being digital sales according to his manager. Then he came out and said he sold 28K but only shipped 30K. That simply can’t be the case if you have 28K total sales (both digital & physical copies). If he sold 28K physical copies then his sales wouldve been well over 50K including his 64% digital sales. Conversely, if he sold 28K total copies and 64% were digital, then he would’ve had over 15K physical albums still on the shelves. As you see he has contradicted himself looking for excuses on this one.

    Personally, I think he should’ve stuck with the dope tracks displaying his artistry like “Wordplay” that helped get him here instead of instantly going for a radio grab with artists like Lady GaGa and the Gucci Mane (seriously? Gucci Mane?). These two are on different sides of the hip-hop spectrum and having him and GaGa on the singles looks like a sell out to his real fans.

  • ATI

    I don’t see how someone can argue that the album WASN’T undershipped. I can’t remember a major-released album that people have had this much trouble finding in stores. Toss in the fact that his only single/video was many months ago, and didn’t fare particularily well, and you have an explanation.

  • ATI

    I don’t see how someone can argue that the album WASN’T undershipped. I can’t remember a major-released album that people have had this much trouble finding in stores. Toss in the fact that his only single/video was many months ago, and didn’t fare particularily well, and you have an explanation.

  • ian aka @StellasKid

    Good post, I think your last point is the most salient one.

    I happen to love the album so I disagree with your second point not only on substance but also in point of fact. I doubt Interscope had much to do with the album he made. I’m sure Wale, for the most part, made exactly the album he wanted to. For some reason, Wale sees himself as a pop rapper (his words straight from his last mistape) so I’m sure he choice to record “Chillin’” and was not forced to make it by interscope. In hindsight, it was not a great record or good choice for a single, but who really knew? Lady Gaga was red hot and it might have worked!

    As for the undershipment thing, this has been based on the word of his manager. Not that his point isn’t valid but as Corey above notes, logistically its almost impossible to only ship 30K and sell through 28K although that may have changed now that digital sales play a much bigger role in sales (especially for Wale who apparently sold 65% of his albums via digital channels).

    I think Wale and his label have to keep plugging away at this. His album is too good to not keep working it still even if these early numbers are a disappointment.

  • ian aka @StellasKid

    Good post, I think your last point is the most salient one.

    I happen to love the album so I disagree with your second point not only on substance but also in point of fact. I doubt Interscope had much to do with the album he made. I’m sure Wale, for the most part, made exactly the album he wanted to. For some reason, Wale sees himself as a pop rapper (his words straight from his last mistape) so I’m sure he choice to record “Chillin’” and was not forced to make it by interscope. In hindsight, it was not a great record or good choice for a single, but who really knew? Lady Gaga was red hot and it might have worked!

    As for the undershipment thing, this has been based on the word of his manager. Not that his point isn’t valid but as Corey above notes, logistically its almost impossible to only ship 30K and sell through 28K although that may have changed now that digital sales play a much bigger role in sales (especially for Wale who apparently sold 65% of his albums via digital channels).

    I think Wale and his label have to keep plugging away at this. His album is too good to not keep working it still even if these early numbers are a disappointment.

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  • Fred Jones

    Terrible article. Why is 28k sales in 2009 a failure for an artist’s first album? 50′s album is only projected to sell 150k, and he’s about as established an artist as you can get. Fact is the label undershipped Wale’s album because they felt he couldn’t sell without a hit single, and if you were actually on Twitter you’d know there is a demand for his album, but people just can’t find it in stores (many people are still apprehensive to digital purchases). Bottom line is that Wale is doing great all things considered.

  • Fred Jones

    Terrible article. Why is 28k sales in 2009 a failure for an artist’s first album? 50′s album is only projected to sell 150k, and he’s about as established an artist as you can get. Fact is the label undershipped Wale’s album because they felt he couldn’t sell without a hit single, and if you were actually on Twitter you’d know there is a demand for his album, but people just can’t find it in stores (many people are still apprehensive to digital purchases). Bottom line is that Wale is doing great all things considered.

  • shabooty

    He’s like the Nigerian Asher Roth.
    Asher Olajuwon, if you will.

  • shabooty

    He’s like the Nigerian Asher Roth.
    Asher Olajuwon, if you will.

  • shabooty

    also fuck wale for having bol’s xxl post deleted.

  • shabooty

    also fuck wale for having bol’s xxl post deleted.

  • suo

    good post, and his album was trash, his freestyles were trash, i wuda preferred if he did 10 versions of nike boots. andddd i think he wuda sold more if he didnt twitter….just sayin

  • suo

    good post, and his album was trash, his freestyles were trash, i wuda preferred if he did 10 versions of nike boots. andddd i think he wuda sold more if he didnt twitter….just sayin

  • suo

    wait a minute aswell…if it was undershipped?…itunes anyone? spotify? lala?

  • suo

    wait a minute aswell…if it was undershipped?…itunes anyone? spotify? lala?

  • M* @sunrisesundown

    good universal points..not just on Wale but on other artist these days.

    Back in the day, people would do reviews on cds AFTER everyone had bought them…weather they were good or not. NOW…right away…anybody on a blog, twitter, or critic..can tell u instantly if the album was wack or not…and if u should “go out ur way ” to BUY an album or download it legally.

  • M* @sunrisesundown

    good universal points..not just on Wale but on other artist these days.

    Back in the day, people would do reviews on cds AFTER everyone had bought them…weather they were good or not. NOW…right away…anybody on a blog, twitter, or critic..can tell u instantly if the album was wack or not…and if u should “go out ur way ” to BUY an album or download it legally.

  • M* @sunrisesundown

    -like Chris Brown would say “At the end of the day”.. he did manage and accomplish getting his record out..a place a lot of upcoming artist would love to be right now! so Kudos to Wale for that, thats amazing and im sure it takes a lot of hard work to do that!

  • M* @sunrisesundown

    -like Chris Brown would say “At the end of the day”.. he did manage and accomplish getting his record out..a place a lot of upcoming artist would love to be right now! so Kudos to Wale for that, thats amazing and im sure it takes a lot of hard work to do that!

  • M* @sunrisesundown

    my fav points in this article are:

    1) the whole undershippment drama that tends to happen way to often to artist. THAT is the meanest shit a label/marketing can do to u. its almost like betrayal..it happen to Amerie, now Wale.. I agree with this—> ” then it further underscores the disconnect between the label and the marketplace. ”

    2)”Word of mouth is still the No.1 killer of wack music and the No.1 promoter of quality music ” YESS!! the people know when labels are trying to brainwash them with worthless/fast cash ass music!! so at the end of the day…”dont sell ur self to fall in love”

    3)” Buzz overkill – Buzz is a gift and a curse” –i think this whole buzz overkill started when the internet started booming..because before Drake..i never heard of being overly known could hurt u…then again..i think of BEYONCE!! –it water downs their true essence of their talents.

    4. honestly a lot of places people are able to physically listen to and buy a CD are almost all gone…Right now its just like TARGET or BESTBUY or itunes…and if u have one..ur local independent music store which rack up the price because they have to.

    i miss Tower Records where u could hear the album and decide for urself if u going to BUY IT or NOT!!! period

    thanks

  • M* @sunrisesundown

    my fav points in this article are:

    1) the whole undershippment drama that tends to happen way to often to artist. THAT is the meanest shit a label/marketing can do to u. its almost like betrayal..it happen to Amerie, now Wale.. I agree with this—> ” then it further underscores the disconnect between the label and the marketplace. ”

    2)”Word of mouth is still the No.1 killer of wack music and the No.1 promoter of quality music ” YESS!! the people know when labels are trying to brainwash them with worthless/fast cash ass music!! so at the end of the day…”dont sell ur self to fall in love”

    3)” Buzz overkill – Buzz is a gift and a curse” –i think this whole buzz overkill started when the internet started booming..because before Drake..i never heard of being overly known could hurt u…then again..i think of BEYONCE!! –it water downs their true essence of their talents.

    4. honestly a lot of places people are able to physically listen to and buy a CD are almost all gone…Right now its just like TARGET or BESTBUY or itunes…and if u have one..ur local independent music store which rack up the price because they have to.

    i miss Tower Records where u could hear the album and decide for urself if u going to BUY IT or NOT!!! period

    thanks

  • AlmostInsider

    What #12 Corey is 100% accurate

  • AlmostInsider

    What #12 Corey is 100% accurate

  • M* @sunrisesundown

    soo true!!–> I think he should’ve stuck with the dope tracks displaying his artistry like “Wordplay” that helped get him here instead of instantly going for a radio grab with artists like Lady GaGa and the Gucci Mane (seriously? Gucci Mane?).

    &

    17) wale roth

    19) i rather listen to nike boots remixes all day! ha…after nike boots wheni first discovered wale..thats when he went left field ..then back he came back when i heard beautiful bLiss and question exist cover song!

  • M* @sunrisesundown

    soo true!!–> I think he should’ve stuck with the dope tracks displaying his artistry like “Wordplay” that helped get him here instead of instantly going for a radio grab with artists like Lady GaGa and the Gucci Mane (seriously? Gucci Mane?).

    &

    17) wale roth

    19) i rather listen to nike boots remixes all day! ha…after nike boots wheni first discovered wale..thats when he went left field ..then back he came back when i heard beautiful bLiss and question exist cover song!

  • Mookie

    I think Wale’s whole game was based on originality and creativity in his music, this album didn’t really carry too much of that like his previous mixtapes did.

    It’s not over for the Wale experiment though, this is just a (large) speedbump.

  • Mookie

    I think Wale’s whole game was based on originality and creativity in his music, this album didn’t really carry too much of that like his previous mixtapes did.

    It’s not over for the Wale experiment though, this is just a (large) speedbump.

  • IT’S COOL FOR WHITE PEOPLE TO

    “the esteemed BET cypher which will be remembered for Eminem’s lyrical onslaught”

    LMAO. No.

  • IT’S COOL FOR WHITE PEOPLE TO RAP NOW

    “the esteemed BET cypher which will be remembered for Eminem’s lyrical onslaught”

    LMAO. No.

  • Naythan

    Yo hold up all you people who actually like Wale a d say the album is trash are kinda stupid. The beats are banging and his lyrics are on point (in comparison to his past stuff). You can’t compare the album to his mixtapes cause their mixtapes they don’t have to address issues so yeah he can drop Nike boots all day. If the album was just party tracks he would get called an artist with no substance. I don’t know who is to actually blame for the lack of sales cause to be honest 28k ain’t that bad cause the shit has been leaked for months before it’s release. However, I tried to get a copy at HMV and they didn’t have it it was already sold out and I was told that I was one of many who couldn’t get a copy. We all know the shit wasn’t going even going cold but it could have sold more. The label gave up on Wale where was his second single video and video?

  • Naythan

    Yo hold up all you people who actually like Wale a d say the album is trash are kinda stupid. The beats are banging and his lyrics are on point (in comparison to his past stuff). You can’t compare the album to his mixtapes cause their mixtapes they don’t have to address issues so yeah he can drop Nike boots all day. If the album was just party tracks he would get called an artist with no substance. I don’t know who is to actually blame for the lack of sales cause to be honest 28k ain’t that bad cause the shit has been leaked for months before it’s release. However, I tried to get a copy at HMV and they didn’t have it it was already sold out and I was told that I was one of many who couldn’t get a copy. We all know the shit wasn’t going even going cold but it could have sold more. The label gave up on Wale where was his second single video and video?

  • Aqua Blanco

    I haven’t worked at a label for years but the whole “undershipped” nonsense is smoke & mirrors. If the demand is there from retailers for the CD, the label will supply them with CDs, period. It’s like leaving money on the table if they don’t.

    In the grand scheme of things, 28k sold isn’t that bad. Promote the record, tour and you can make a nice living. However, that doesn’t seem to fall in line with Wale’s grandiose plans of Hip-Hop/Pop domination. That’s why it looks so bad. And the budget for his record probably wasn’t none too cheap either. So much for recouping.

  • Aqua Blanco

    I haven’t worked at a label for years but the whole “undershipped” nonsense is smoke & mirrors. If the demand is there from retailers for the CD, the label will supply them with CDs, period. It’s like leaving money on the table if they don’t.

    In the grand scheme of things, 28k sold isn’t that bad. Promote the record, tour and you can make a nice living. However, that doesn’t seem to fall in line with Wale’s grandiose plans of Hip-Hop/Pop domination. That’s why it looks so bad. And the budget for his record probably wasn’t none too cheap either. So much for recouping.

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  • Tiffany

    I thought the album was good but I didn’t buy it. Why? Because I’m a broke college student.

  • Tiffany

    I thought the album was good but I didn’t buy it. Why? Because I’m a broke college student.

  • ATI

    Really, joints like “Wordplay” are what Wale should be doing? Rapping passable punchlines over pedestrian 9th Wonder tracks? Nah, homie, that ain’t the lane for dude at all, which is evidenced by the many many occasions on that tape where he was one-upped by his guest features. His best formula is rapping with conceptual direction over more eclectic, genre-crossing production. Sure, his album is more glossy and commercial-leaning than his best mixtape stuff, but I think most of it does pretty well to play to his actual strengths.

    And do we really need any more links to reviews that give standard accounts of what the tracks are like without presenting any actual insight into the music – but instead reach for the standard-fare, yet inaccurate comparisons?

  • ATI

    Really, joints like “Wordplay” are what Wale should be doing? Rapping passable punchlines over pedestrian 9th Wonder tracks? Nah, homie, that ain’t the lane for dude at all, which is evidenced by the many many occasions on that tape where he was one-upped by his guest features. His best formula is rapping with conceptual direction over more eclectic, genre-crossing production. Sure, his album is more glossy and commercial-leaning than his best mixtape stuff, but I think most of it does pretty well to play to his actual strengths.

    And do we really need any more links to reviews that give standard accounts of what the tracks are like without presenting any actual insight into the music – but instead reach for the standard-fare, yet inaccurate comparisons?

  • Thomas

    1. I’ve never understood how promoting yourself in the right way (touring, on the blogs, interviews, etc) is a bad thing. He’s made some missteps along the way (posting on twitter during an interview, some of the whining, etc), however, he’s doing what he can to get people to buy his product. More than some artist do.

    2. He’s on a major label and a new artist. I’m going to assume he had to fight tooth and nail to get some of those songs on the album (“Shades,” “Diary,” “Beautiful Bliss”). He had vocalist and guest rappers on the album. Only one was probably force and that was the Gucci Mane feature. Now if the guest didn’t add to the track then it would be a failure to me. They all added to the tracks. I’m not sure that a major label such as Interscope is going to allow an artist to put out a product that resembles a mixtape. Anyone going into this project thinking it was going to sound like his previous mixtape had unrealistic expectations to me.

    3. I’ve seen nothing but positive things about the album. Now it depends on where I looking for the information. Actually, people (from what I seen) was surprised by the product he put together. Again, from where I was looking. I live in the dc/md/va area and dont’ hear him on the radio (or at least when I turn it on). For him to do anytype of numbers is amazing to me. I think us who frequent the internet sometimes forget that everyone doesn’t spend 4+ hrs on this thing daily. Radio is still a key component to an artist.

    4. Right twitter followers don’t equal sales as we all know people who were interested in hearing the album d/l it, but probably didn’t buy it. I supported.

    5. I’m not sure where the cocky talk comes from with him. I’ve haven’t seen it. If someone who has faith in their talent and expresses and people don’t like how they come off it’s called being cocky. Never understood that. It’s not like there is a book on how to navigate the record business. I think what he does do is “try to hard” to impress people, but that comes with age and maturity. Now 2-4 yrs from now if he does some of the same bone head stuff then we can talk about his demeanor.

    6. His BET appearance wasn’t stellar, however, he and the band rep their area lovely to me and he showed out (IMO) on the Def Jam joint on VH1. I seen him on tour with Jay and he had the crowd rocking. He had a Go-Go bank backing him so his sound wouldn’t be “hip-hop” sounding so to speak. I don’t think he missed any opportunities.

    7. Not witchcraft, but the new wave of hip-hop fans who champion someone on the net, but don’t go to retail, iTunes, or Amazon to get the product (see: Slaughterhouse, Royce, etc)

    When I went to Best Buy to get the album they had 2 copies on release date. In the store last night and only 3. Don’t know about the actual numbers, but Sha Stimuli said in an interview that Koch/E1 didn’t ship a bunch of albums because he doesn’t have a market presence or something like that. Plus, I think people are waiting to say “I told you so” with some of these new artist. Something to think about.

    Sorry this is long.

  • Thomas

    1. I’ve never understood how promoting yourself in the right way (touring, on the blogs, interviews, etc) is a bad thing. He’s made some missteps along the way (posting on twitter during an interview, some of the whining, etc), however, he’s doing what he can to get people to buy his product. More than some artist do.

    2. He’s on a major label and a new artist. I’m going to assume he had to fight tooth and nail to get some of those songs on the album (“Shades,” “Diary,” “Beautiful Bliss”). He had vocalist and guest rappers on the album. Only one was probably force and that was the Gucci Mane feature. Now if the guest didn’t add to the track then it would be a failure to me. They all added to the tracks. I’m not sure that a major label such as Interscope is going to allow an artist to put out a product that resembles a mixtape. Anyone going into this project thinking it was going to sound like his previous mixtape had unrealistic expectations to me.

    3. I’ve seen nothing but positive things about the album. Now it depends on where I looking for the information. Actually, people (from what I seen) was surprised by the product he put together. Again, from where I was looking. I live in the dc/md/va area and dont’ hear him on the radio (or at least when I turn it on). For him to do anytype of numbers is amazing to me. I think us who frequent the internet sometimes forget that everyone doesn’t spend 4+ hrs on this thing daily. Radio is still a key component to an artist.

    4. Right twitter followers don’t equal sales as we all know people who were interested in hearing the album d/l it, but probably didn’t buy it. I supported.

    5. I’m not sure where the cocky talk comes from with him. I’ve haven’t seen it. If someone who has faith in their talent and expresses and people don’t like how they come off it’s called being cocky. Never understood that. It’s not like there is a book on how to navigate the record business. I think what he does do is “try to hard” to impress people, but that comes with age and maturity. Now 2-4 yrs from now if he does some of the same bone head stuff then we can talk about his demeanor.

    6. His BET appearance wasn’t stellar, however, he and the band rep their area lovely to me and he showed out (IMO) on the Def Jam joint on VH1. I seen him on tour with Jay and he had the crowd rocking. He had a Go-Go bank backing him so his sound wouldn’t be “hip-hop” sounding so to speak. I don’t think he missed any opportunities.

    7. Not witchcraft, but the new wave of hip-hop fans who champion someone on the net, but don’t go to retail, iTunes, or Amazon to get the product (see: Slaughterhouse, Royce, etc)

    When I went to Best Buy to get the album they had 2 copies on release date. In the store last night and only 3. Don’t know about the actual numbers, but Sha Stimuli said in an interview that Koch/E1 didn’t ship a bunch of albums because he doesn’t have a market presence or something like that. Plus, I think people are waiting to say “I told you so” with some of these new artist. Something to think about.

    Sorry this is long.

  • Combat Jack

    I was gonna try to break down the Wale phenomena, you kilt it! Dope and thanx!

  • Combat Jack

    I was gonna try to break down the Wale phenomena, you kilt it! Dope and thanx!

  • GetEmGenius

    at 1.
    LOLLLLLL

  • GetEmGenius

    at 1.
    LOLLLLLL

  • http://therapup.uproxx.com/2009/11/wales-response.html Wale’s Response | The Rap Up

    [...] piece on Wale’s unsuccessful debut somehow found its way to the man himself. He was receptive to the analysis, but he also had some [...]

  • Highlight

    “ITS COOL FOR WHITE PEOPLE TO RAP NOW” is a faggot.

    That is all.

  • Highlight

    “ITS COOL FOR WHITE PEOPLE TO RAP NOW” is a faggot.

    That is all.

  • Plug One Boss

    Interesting analysis but a little premature. Remember that Lupe Fiasco sold modest amounts of “Food and Liquor” in its first week, too — even though he had a hit single in “Kick, Push” — and got mixed reviews. But then he toured his ass off, squeaked out 300,000 copies, and then went gold on “The Cool.” Point being, there’s still a lot of life in the “Attention Deficit” project. If it builds to better numbers by summer 2010 — and with Wale’s touring capabilities and fan base he certainly has a shot at doing that — then I’ll remember this post and laugh at how presumptuous these “7 Reasons” were.

  • Plug One Boss

    Interesting analysis but a little premature. Remember that Lupe Fiasco sold modest amounts of “Food and Liquor” in its first week, too — even though he had a hit single in “Kick, Push” — and got mixed reviews. But then he toured his ass off, squeaked out 300,000 copies, and then went gold on “The Cool.” Point being, there’s still a lot of life in the “Attention Deficit” project. If it builds to better numbers by summer 2010 — and with Wale’s touring capabilities and fan base he certainly has a shot at doing that — then I’ll remember this post and laugh at how presumptuous these “7 Reasons” were.

  • http://yourfavoritewhiteboy.com/2009/12/02/wale-sales-show-the-industry-has-to-change/ Wale Sales Show The Industry Has To Change | Your Favorite White Boy

    [...] leaves us to search for a larger meaning for why Wale bricked.  Rizoh over at The Rap Up takes a solid cut as to why this may be the case, which even caught the attention of Wale himself.   While I agree [...]

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